It’s very easy to celebrate the big milestones in the Christian life – you start a new ministry, a new congregation, a new church … it expands to 50, a hundred, two hundred people. And there doesn’t seem to be anything you can’t do in God’s name. But what about the other side of the coin? What about when ministry dreams are dashed, when churches close, when people turn their back on the Gospel? God is still in control – we know that – but how do we make sense of the tough times … see them rightly? Live with them in a way that still brings glory to God?

Derek Hanna and Scott Sanders talk to Dave McDonald, the National Director of the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches, is a pastor, preacher and evangelist who has seen the heights and the depths of ministry … and come through the other side with sound advice to offer.

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